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Serge · Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 6:46 am Post subject:

i think that this is a complex issue as on the one hand developers want to be rewarded for their hard work...on the other hand there is only a small market who would be interested in their dll and users will only buy the dll they need when they need it...that is certainly the case with me...i can't afford to buy every dll that comes out in support of the dll developers but if i need one and i have some spare money, then i will buy it

on the issue of cracks...it is a shame that it is always the majority who suffer because of the actions of a minority...and in the case of vds, i would hazard a guess and say a very small minority

pg...that you don't want to write new dlls is fair enough but don't withdraw what you have available as folks will buy it when they need it...and honest folks will buy it!!!...the same goes for all other dll developers Smile

no one can make folks buy something to support its development but surely we can come up with some good ideas for stopping hackers accessing the dll's...see my other post

serge

vdsalchemist · Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 6:52 am Post subject:

arcray · Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 9:14 am Post subject:

I use and have paid for many DLLs here, and I would be un-happy if support was withdrawn from them.

I would be happy to contribute to DLL developers that have been of great benefit to me and my work, even to the extent of a monthly subscription. However just me alone would not generate sufficient income for those developers. I can pay for specialist support where I need it, but most of my requirements have been resolved by this board.

I understand how depressing it can be, to work long hours on a project and not acheive a return. But withdrawing them stops any possible future income from being generated, and will speed up the demise of VDS itself...

That would be sad! And eventually put me out of work, unless an alternative came along.

If there were anything I could do to halt that demise, I'd like to try!

Rubes_sw · Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 10:30 am Post subject:

I can understand DLL/DUS authors frustration about kegens/cracks etc.

After my conversion.dsu costing $5 dollars was cracked, and the source code was sent to back to me by the cracker, i was really annoyned and frustrated and then i decided to release the source of the dsu because i could not be bothered. And I never even got 1 regitrastion for the DSU.

Also a great program i wrote called Control PC had over 5K downloads and i never got 1 registration.

I have pruchased quite a few vds dlls over the years and have also purchaseed copies of VDS3, VDS4 and VDS5.

It must be said however, no matter what protection you create for your programs, crackers useually find a way Crying or Very sad

Most software from multinational corporations can be cracked using cracks etc. It is sad, but;

Most serious people who want to really develop good apps, will pay for and register tools and software.

I would really hate to see VDS go down the tubes, but it may happen.

Nathan

jules · Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 10:38 am Post subject:

jules · Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 10:46 am Post subject:

FreezingFire · **Admin Team** Joined: 23 Jun 2002 Posts: 3508

PK, if things get better than they are right now, and VDS gets more
popular, and it would be feasible once again to develop dlls, would you
ever come back to developing your extensions? They do some of the
most amazing things I've ever seen happen in VDS, and I just hate to
see your hard work being thrown out the window. Sad

Vic D'Elfant · Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 3:05 pm Post subject:

I agree with you FreezingFire. It's really sad that one of our top-dll developers quits... Crying or Very sad

Vic

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jules · Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 4:55 pm Post subject:

Well, the registration key generator for my shareware actually is called keygen... Embarassed

jules · Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 5:03 pm Post subject:

vdsalchemist · Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 5:14 pm Post subject:

Jules,
You are correct. Emmanuel is not going to stop working on VDS or seeling. He is committed to VDS that is why it takes so long for a new version to be released he does not want to release junk. Even the best development systems need help these days. I think we should not speak of the negatives but rather talk about what to do to resolve this. I really wish Emmanuel would release the SDK version 2 documentation for VDS. It would be nice there are many things I have ran into as I delve into my Gadget DLL deep that are not making sense to me and I think the new SDK could shed some light on these areas...

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LOBO · Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 5:51 pm Post subject:

To help with stopping the negativeness of this thread I have went back and removed my previous post. Hopefully our community will grow and things will get better. Remember you're never going to stop someone who wants to crack your program they will always find some way but please just think about the honest customers you do have.

-Mark